jkenney1973 wrote:So basically what you're saying is that my wife should have gone through 9 months of mental torture because of she was sexually abused? How very sadistic you are! I thought the Spanish Inquisition was bad!
Does anyone else find it ironic that many Christians came to this country to flee religious persecution? Why is it that they now persecute the rest of us? It must be a power thing. They that hold the power make the rules, right?
I’m sorry, I don’t mean to get off on a rant, but I have a hard time believing that a human being would wish that kind of unbearable suffering on a 16 year old girl. What if something like that would happen to one of your own children? Hopefully it wouldn’t, but what if it did? I’m not trying to be personal, just to give you some perspective.
JKenney,
Actually, have you done the research on those sexually abused. There was a survey done by those who kept a child after being sexually abused and those who did not. This study conducted by a renowned University found that no one who decided to keep the child regreted the decision. Yet, they found a high percentage of those who decided to abort regretted the decision. There has been no other study conducted that refutes these findings and all studies done support these findings. In my case, my best friend in High School was a result of a rape. She was and is one of the nicest people you will ever meet.
Also, let me say that I have sat down with many women who have been raped and trying to decide about the life issues... as recently as last week. I do not know the horrors they go through but I have walked with women going through tragedies and later finding they were pregnant. I would never pretend to say it is easy for them. Yet, I do not believe murder is the solution. It is never the solution. If murder is the taking of an innocent human life then we must define life. What is life to you?
Secondly, I am not abusing or persecuting you. I am simply defining life. I think it is persecution by murdering people.
What I want from the other side is a rational dialog on the following:
1. When does human life begin and defend this scientifically.
2. Define murder
3. Is it ever okay to murder, define the principles of murder.
As you can see, I am not persecuting you. Simply speaking, I am trying to engage in a rationale understanding of life and murder. What I find is that most who are "Pro-Choice" avoid these questions because they either can't answer the questions or they are afraid to answer the questions. They do not want to admit that they are murdering a human life. They want to just think they are removing some cells. Yet, the discussion is based upon the idea of "what is life" and "what is murder".
No one wants to engage in that type of dialog, thy just want to say "She should have a choice." Who cares, let's first define life and murder and then we can get to the choice issue. That is, unless someone is afraid to answer those because they hate where it may take them philosophically.
BTW, if you notice, I am not using religious proofs. I am citing scientific and definitional statements. Yet, people think I am using my religion. I can do that but I believe this is a philosophical discussion first.