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phear_me User
Joined: 03 May 2010 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:23 am Post subject: |
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PCC is a terrible college that is a travesty to the very concept of Christian education. Equally damaging is that the university is not accredited, which means you will have very little luck ever attending graduate school post commencement.
There are far better options out there for Christian education. I'd strongly advise people to consider either Biola University or Wheaton College as phenomenal, academically rigorous, and spiritually healthy universities.
www.biola.edu
www.wheaton.edu |
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Foxtrot7777 User
Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Posts: 2
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| phear_me wrote: |
PCC is a terrible college that is a travesty to the very concept of Christian education. Equally damaging is that the university is not accredited, which means you will have very little luck ever attending graduate school post commencement.
www.biola.edu
www.wheaton.edu |
Wow. And what is your basis for any of this?
All of you are equating bad experiences you had back in the 90's and the 80's. Seriously?
I stumbled across this forum on a search in google. Quite frankly, most of you have got it all wrong. I am currently attending PCC for several reasons.
Did I want to attent PCC on my own? For the longest time, no. My parents iterated that it was going to be the only school they would ever pay for. This heavily weighed into my decision. I went to public school my whole life, so I was not too eager to go to PCC and put up with the rules there. I was under the illusion that there were pink sidewalks for girls and blue sidewalks for boys.
Several weeks before applying to PCC, I was accepted on a full ride appointment to West Point Military Academy. And I had a pending package to the Air Force Academy. I finished High School with a 4.0 GPA, so a lot of people thought I was stupid for leaving all of that and going to PCC.
But you know what? I would make that decision a million times over.
Every single post I have read on these forums is about "Me. My. I." It is all about yourself. Not once have I read here a critique about PCC where God was at the center of your life. If God is not at the center of your life, then PCC will turn into the worst place ever. To you.
When He is at the center of your life, everything else falls into place. This nonsense that you cannot find a job if you attend PCC? Absolute garbage. Nonsensical garbage!
There is a woman in the UNITED STATES CONGRESS who graduated from PCC. Guess what job I landed this summer? A full-time paid internship on Independence Avenue in WASHINGTON D.C. Over 2,000 people applied for these internships, and a little lowly PCC sophomore landed it. I wonder how that happened, since it is impossible to find work if you go to PCC... What a fallacy that is.
PCC has rules. No doubt. But guess what? There are rules everywhere you go in life. Traffic rules. Common Law. Joining the military? They have rules too! Did someone say that they couldn't get into Officer Training School with a PCC Degree? Wow, that seems funny because I have met ten+ guys this last year who are all now 2nd Lieutenants in their respective branches of service.
The point I am trying to make is this: If you are IN God's will, PCC can and WILL work for you. God is not going to "curse" you for going there and "putting up" with the college. Do I have problems with the college? Sure! Are there things there I don't agree with? Of course! Does that make it a "terrible travesty"? Absolutely not.
So those of you that read this, if you want an OBJECTIVE view from someone who is CURRENTLY attending the school, toss me a PM.
Have a good one.
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Brittany User
Joined: 10 Jun 2010 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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I am a Pensacola Christian College student and I can proudly say that my college is not and should not be considered a cult. I am not a teacher, a floorleader, an APL, a PL, a row monitor, a chaperone, and I do not even go on the christian services on Saturdays.I have received 275 demerits in the three years i have attended PCC, and I in no way am what you would call "PCCish" or "involved" but I will stand up for what i know as a student is wrong.
Pensacola Christian College is not for everyone and the administration will tell you that. They do not force themselves down anyone's throat, you either choose to obey or not. I love that school, I am a Christian, and i do intend to finish my undergraduate degree in Sep. of 2010 to then go on to Law school at FSU(by the way they excepted my credits just fine:.)My boyfriend is a Pre-med major who intends to finish his undergraduate degree the same time and then also go to FSU for Med-school. The rules are being overexagerated and the devil is laughing because of people like you who try and mess up a good thing. I really hope God will do a work in your life and change your heart because if i had read this before i signed on to go to PCC i would not have gone, gotten saved, seen true example's of Christ, learned ample amounts about everything, or met the man i will one day marry...So to God be the glory I did not. Like i said before i am not the student that is on the brochures or the student that where's the "Catch the spirit pin" but i am a student and I can honestly say the things that you have raved about are problems that other universities wish they had. I am in no way "indoctrinated" i have some different doctrinal views than PCC but when i sit in chapel that never becomes an issue because they do not try to force a congregation of seven thousand people to believe anything. If you think you are helping anyone by posting this negative garbage you are wrong. Arlin Horton started that school with pure intentions and they are still running the school with those intentions. I will not even address the individual issues you have brought up because vengence is the Lords and he will take care of you and these seeds of deception your planting. By the way i went to public school in highschool so i would know if the education at PCC is "less than" or if the rules are to hard to handle, yes, as i said before i have had many demerits but the reasons i was given those demerits were good reasons. Scanning in from off campus late, playing my music loudly in town in my car, and wearing immodest clothing. By the way, a lady should dress appropriately especially in a world like we live in today. My mama always tells me that if my boyfriend can peek at the presents before the big day than on the big day he will not see anything new, the wedding night is the time that a woman can dress however she wants but until then your husband, my daddy, my grandaddy, and many other men are walking around having to see young girls hanging out and we expect them to still be attracted to their wives. (Let me add that that was only a scenerio.) When you lived in Pensacola i am sure things were different than they are now but it is a military town and the administartion wants to know we are safe and if we do scan in late from off campus the school will take action in order to make sure we are safe, my mama and daddy appreciate the bubble we PCC students sometimes think we are in. I went to Mobile one time my second year there and broke down on the way back and my cell phone died, i was scared and alone(against school rules) and made it to a phone and called the school only to find that they were already out looking for me, thank God they noticed i had not scanned in and knew where i had intended to go because of the "fast pass".Also, the "5 people to the beach" thing is a safety measure....tell the family that just almost lost a son to the beach last year that the school should have allowed him to go by himself, by the way those 4 other people drug his almost lifeless body from the water. Ohh and the reason i got demerits for playing my music too loudly in my car is because being that we students are not restricted to stay on campus we as CHRISTIANS not PCC STUDENTS should have a good testimony out there, and i was not portraying the values and standards a CHRISTIAN should have and keep. Keep you bad experience to yourself, my little sister just called you a "Drama Queen" and i think that pretty much sums it up. I truly do hope you get back on track because you are doing nothing but hurting yourself. _________________ Brittany |
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joyfulone User
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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I think the style of the responses here by those in favor of PCC speak louder than anything; they come off as judgmental, legalistic, and generally unloving.
As a Christian, shouldn't your aim be to present a testimony that displays the love of Christ and your relationship with God...rather than just a bunch of things you don't do that make you different and therefore better than everyone else? Otherwise, what makes you any different than a Pharisee?
If these are the kinds of people that PCC manufactures, I sure wouldn't go there or send my children there.
And Brittany - for the record, I agree that if your husband gets a 'peek' before, it's not as special. However, I have been told this my entire Christian walk, and frankly I would like a better reason for purity and modesty than just to make my future husband happy. Should my future husband drive my moral decisions? Is my only significance to be found in how desirable i am as a potential wife? How about expressing the ways in which it is Christlike to maintain your purity, rather than this attitude of making sure you're a perfect prize for your husband? Because the way you see it...you're still reduced a piece of meat. Same as girls in bikinis - objectified. You're a covered-up piece of meat in this case, but a piece of meat none the less. I think Christ saw us with much more value than that, and THAT belief you have about why you should be modest is one of those biblically unfounded things that Christians like to call biblical without questioning it. THAT seems to be one of the problems people have with PCC. |
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Foxtrot7777 User
Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Posts: 2
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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I think the style of the responses here by those in favor of PCC speak louder than anything; they come off as judgmental, legalistic, and generally unloving.
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Judgmental? Legalistic? Unloving?
Yet it is okay to just throw a blanket statement on the college and call it "a terrible travesty"? How is that loving? How is that not judgmental? How is saying that "it is impossible to get into grad-school post commencement" not legalistic?
You're grasping at straws there. I was simply defending my school from a very unfair analysis. An analysis that was backed up with no facts or examples.
The school is not for everyone, that has been made very clear. Everyone has different convictions, especially at PCC. Just because the administration believes a certain way does not mean that -everyone- at the school believes that way. Nor does every student come across as a "stuck-up, judgmental" christian that you are labeling every PCC student as. That, in and of itself, is judgmental, my friend. It's a stereotype.
It's extremely unfair. Anyone can stereotype about people going to any college. But I know what my Bible says, and I know what being at the school is actually like. God knows my heart, and He knows yours. If I have peace about going to PCC, what is wrong with that? Maybe you don't have peace about your kids going there. That doesn't give you a license to bash it and drag the school's name around in the mud.
So bash the school all you want, claim that everyone there is unloving and hates all the other Non-PCC-goers. That couldn't be any farther from the truth.
There is absolutely no point in degrading or belittling other Christians that are attending the school and happen to like it there.
You don't know the lives of these Christians. You don't know their testimony. You don't live with them day by day. Calling them Pharisees is pretty lame. Nice little "judgemental" snipe there.
So judge the "styles" of the responses all you want. God judges the heart. There are great, Godly people at that school who have devoted their lives to the cause of Jesus Christ, the Gospel, and winning souls. I don't see anything "loving" or "Christian" about judging the whole school over the internet.
For prospective students:
If you don't want to go there, don't go there. But don't judge something based on a few bad apples that PCC "manufactured." If you are interested in going, I suggest you visit. Most of the phantom fears and false accusations floating around on the internet and in various gossip circles would be put to rest if you decided to see it for yourself.
Don't get all caught up in the hoop-lah and the negative comments. Life is ultimately about walking like Christ, praying, meeting people everyday, and telling them about Jesus Christ. All else falls by the wayside, no matter what college you go to. |
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Brittany User
Joined: 10 Jun 2010 Posts: 2
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, that fox person really summed it up....that is about what I was going to say, although I should apologize for sounding so carnal in my view of my purity. I do understand the pont of view of joyfulone, I did make it sound like the soul reason for purity is my husband's pleasure but believe me I mispoke. I know the reasons for purity and I am pure for those reasons and I dress in a fashion not only to not put stumbling blocks in my brother's way, but also because God makes it clear what he would have me do. I have been taught by not only my parents but also my college to obey God and for me to remain pure I would be doing just that.  _________________ Brittany |
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Theodore Moderator

Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 1803 Location: Missouri, US
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like PCC is the Christian version of a military school (as in, strict rules), so it's not surprising that some people feel comforted by the structure and a somewhat larger percentage just feel stifled. Read the posts, make your decision, move on. There's no need to flame others because they aren't looking for the same sort of college.
// Never went to PCC, but my oldest sister did go to Patrick Henry, which is also quite structured. |
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